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[sebastienne]

And now, in bullet-point format for your pleasure, may I present:

Harry Potter & the Order of the Phoenix

- Just in case you hadn't noticed that Fred & George are meant to be Merry & Pippin, here they are with illicit fireworks. Shaped like a dragon. Subtle.

- Just in case I ever felt guilty about my adolescent Snarry fixation, here are a few occlumency lessons to remind me everything I ever saw in the pairing. Ohgod. Alan Rickman, stop saying "penetration" and "discipline" like that. For my homosexuality. Please.

- Hermione; just no.

- Umbridge was even more like my old headmistress than she was in the books. I did not think this possible.

- Two seconds of Remus/Sirius interaction. Two seconds. But it was enough. Their love was there.

the prohecy (speculation follows)

OK, my pre-movie money was pretty firmly on the prophecy having referred to both Harry AND Neville, up until Voldie scarred Harry, at which point it became about Harry only; and that "neither can live while the other survives" meant that Harry must die in order to render Voldemort mortal, and then Neville would kill him as the prophecy reverts.

The film has changed that somewhat.

Neville: "I'm proud of my parents' sacrifice, and will avenge them"
Neville: "Hey, Harry, doesn't this prophecy have your name on it?

.....

Lucius Malfoy: "Only the person about whom a prophecy is made, can find it"

What is really being foreshadowed here? I'm starting to think that it is NEVILLE'S sarifice. In the very first book, Neville had to be incapacitated for the trio to succeed in foiling evil; his actions ended up winning Gryffindor the House Cup. In the final book, will success again depend on Neville's self-sacrifice? His death, this time?

Is Neville the Sam character? Last-minute ring-bearer, not the hero, but without whom no success would have been possible? Herbology = gardening, Y/N?

There is no crack in my theories, what do you mean?!

Right, now I'm off to click your spoiler cuts & read your reviews; but I can't guarantee I won't miss any - if you've anything particularly interesting/fun/squeeful to say, link me?

Comments

[forgiveninasong.livejournal.com]

I had some OoTP thoughts under a cut on my LJ :)

And, even though I don't get the LOTR references, I find it VERY interesting that you made the Prophecy reference here. I hadn't thought about it. And knowing that JKR has such an influence over what can be left in and taken out of the screenplay, it's even more interesting when things like this are found.

xxx

[sebastienne.livejournal.com]

Ooh, a Harry/Hermione shipper, you're a bit of a dying breed!

Still, there was no deciding between H/Hr & H/G in OotP - for some reason they were playing up the Harry/Luna!

[forgiveninasong.livejournal.com]

I know, I know, but I have shipped H/Hr for years...like, way before the films, which just SCREAM H/Hr (up until this last one, mind you), so I've been quite satisfied with the films, really. JKR, on the other hand, writes "romance" like a poor 13 year old fanfic writer. It makes me want to vomit.

I got the Harry/Luna, too! And as usual, the H/G was non-existant, which will make film 6 make everyone go "WTF?!" just like with the books. She got over him in CoS, so why the fuck did they suddenly get together in HBP?! Really, it was just totally stupid! And don't get me started on R/Hr! I hate the OBWHF theory. Makes my skin crawl.

*ahem* Sorry about that! My inner fandom geek occasionally comes out and I get rather passionate.

xxx

[glamwhorebunni.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Neville was being played up.

On the other hand, they also were setting up Harry/Luna. And sadly that doesn't happen. Although Luna is obviously so much better than Ginny, Luna is absolutely excellent.


DUMBLEDORE THE WHITE?

[pozorvlak.livejournal.com]

You know, when book 6 came out, I'd totally forgotten who Luna was (I was unwilling to revisit the trauma of Book 5). A shame, because she's actually a good character. Far better than Ginny.

Overall, the film confirmed my opinion that there was a reasonably decent 3-400 page book trapped inside OotP sobbing pitifully to be let out.

[glamwhorebunni.livejournal.com]

Yeah, unlike Goblet of Fire. Where the film simply confirmed the idea that the story is a sequence of things happening one after another...

[glamwhorebunni.livejournal.com]

Re-reading the OotP book. Neither important Neville line is book-canon. It's Ron who finds the prophecy.

Damn.

[sebastienne.livejournal.com]

Aye, but the book has other important Neville-hints, like "born as the seventh month dies".. I find it interesting that different hints, pointing in the same direction, appear in both forms of the story.

[glamwhorebunni.livejournal.com]

True.

And we'll find out in 5 days, OMFGSquee!

[billyphatu.livejournal.com]

Umbridge was even more like my old headmistress than she was in the books. I did not think this possible.

That pink/salmon, fluffy power suit is what did it. Oh, and the 10-feet-apart rule.