people who get it

[sebastienne]

People in Edinburgh:

See Ms Minelli.

It's brilliant. You will immediately fall in love with this actor, and hir charisma and power will break your heart. Highlight to read trigger-spoilers: this show contains depictions of suicide caused by a societally-enforced gender binary. The audience can feel complicit in this suicide.

The Lashers spent last night sitting in the living room making small squeaking noises. Most of all, I think, it is evidence that Scotsgay is right when they say that Lashings of Ginger Beer Time (or, if not our show, its message) should "be on the national curriculum".

In a tangentially related point, I was glad to see Stephen Fry 'getting it' with regard to my increasing distaste for Stonewall:

"I have stood up and spoken for Stonewall and its campaigns to stop playground bullying and taunting: it is of course the effeminate and overtly camp boys (or butch girls) at school who first come in for that sort of attention, the kind of attention that alcohol and a gang mentality can turn all too readily into gay-bashing and severe violence. Is it now official Stonewall policy that only “straight-acting” gays are acceptable, that today’s Quentin Crisps and Kenneth Williams’s can count themselves as outcast from “the community”?"

Comments

[jacinthsong.livejournal.com]

Yes, you know Stephen Fry has been unbrilliant over the last few years, but I was so glad of that post. So true.

[deathbyshinies.livejournal.com]

I like it when Stephen Fry fails to be faily. :D

[queerpup.livejournal.com]

Do you know, I am so torn on this.

One the one hand I totally agree that camp poofs, and butch dykes should be as visible and respected alongside anyone, conforming to stereotypes or not.

BUT at the same time, the gays you see on telly, that are out and visible _tend_ to be the unthreatening funny-camp (as opposed to confusing camp) gay men. OK, so people on telly are entertainers, so are going to be, well, entertaining, and non-stereotypical queers tend to go unnoticed (or their sexuality is irrelevant - Evan Davies, for example, although being out, sexuality isn't really pertinant to international economics!).

AGH this ties me in rediculous knots.

[jacinthsong.livejournal.com]

True, but the point I think is most relevant here is that even if public images of queer people are skewed, bashing those individuals who are in the public eye for their presentation isn't the answer...

[queerpup.livejournal.com]

Yes, that makes sense.

What started me off on this train of thought some time ago was Alan Carr's show, Chatty Man. Before then I didn't give a toss, but seeing someone buy in to a stereotype just so much was almost painful.

[jlmw.livejournal.com]

Does anyone else feel that the whole concept of a rogues' gallery here is pretty horrific ("oh these people have got being gay wrong"). Unless it was a list of homophobic celebs, in contrast to the gay celebs on the pink list, I suppose.

[sebastienne.livejournal.com]

My only hope is that it contains homophobic comedic constructs, like Bruno... but that someone got the line between that and people's real identifications pretty radically wrong...