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[sebastienne]

tagged by billyphatu, altered by sebastienne because I don't trust celebrities to be nice people:

1. List 5 celebrities fictional people you would have sex with without even asking questions.
2. Put all of them IN ORDER of your lust for them. (5 - 1, 1 is the hottest.)
3. Say which movie/show/thing it was that hooked you.
4. Supply photos for said people.
5. Tag five people!


1. Graham Eaton from But, I'm a Cheerleader:





Aged 15, I know of this cinema in London that shows what I then consider "arthouse" movies (ie, I've not seen them reviewed in J-17 magazine). One afternoon, they're showing a film about a "sexual reorientation camp". I'm still a proto-dyke at this stage, spewing rants about how everyone is bisexual because Brian Slade (see below) told me to, but constantly approaching the world with the attitude of "which man in this film/band/friendship group is going to be The One I Fancy?". But I feel a strange pull towards "But, I'm a Cheerleader!", this arty, political indictment of the barbaric practices of religious fundamentalists. I skip an afternoon of school and take the tube into London, and, for the first time in my life, go to see a film on my own.

Whatever I was expecting when I bought my ticket, it was not a beautiful kitsch romantic comedy that lampooned traditional gender roles while giving me the BIGGEST crush of my LIFE on the cynical, cool, bitter, sexually liberated Graham Eaton. This film - this character - is the single best piece of homosexual propoganda I know. It WANTED me to be gay. For Graham, I was quite happy to oblige.


2 Brian Slade from Velvet Goldmine:

I was 12 years old, and had barely recovered from seeing Tim Curry in The Rocky Horror Picture Show, when J-17 magazine printed this film still:



Well. Shall I let that speak for itself, or shall I document how I sought this film out, begging my mother (unsuccessfully) to let me see it in the cinema (it was a 15), then having her finally capitulate when it came out on video? Shall I explain how THIS ONE FILM is responsible for everything that I am today?







It's this film that led to me reading a biography of Bowie in one hand, and a biography of Wilde in the other, looking for evidence that one was the reincarnation of the other. Rocky Horror may have taught me to genderfuck, but this film taught me to queer EVERYTHING that had ever been handed down as "expected" of me. Gods, even now, I haven't quite the words. You'd think ten years would be long enough to learn to express something like this, but it's still too much.


3 Dr Frank N Furter from The Rocky Horror Show:



Because, let's face it, he would be fucking BRILLIANT in bed.


4 Kat Stratford from Ten Things I Hate About You:





She might not be a "KD Lang fan" but I have always had a thing for alternagothgeekloner types. See also "Graham", above, and her sister Stokely Mitchell in The Faculty.


5 The Elf Queen from Lords and Ladies and Wee Free Men:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think she has a name.. anyway. If a Pratchett elf wanted to have sex with you, like a Greek god, you would not be able to resist. And the Elf Queen pretty much embodies all that is illusion and decadence and brute dionysian sensuality, in her leather and fur and feathers, and she's a lot more feral than she first appears.

Can you say "perfect woman"?

Finding my mental image of her on the internet has not been easy; but if you can amalgamate these, then make her bigger & older & scarier, and on horseback, then you'll be halfway there.







tag: sugar_and_space, liminereid, foreverdirt, chrisvenus, steerpikelet

Comments

[vampire-kitten.livejournal.com]

I love your taste in people :)

[chrisvenus]

I might be showing my ignorance but which one in the picture for 1 is it that you are talking about? I'm assuming the one on the right but I can't remember names for the life of me so I thought I'd ask...

The character that always springs to my mind for this sort of thing is Evelyn in the Mummy films. She has such a cute proper english librarian sexyness to her I just wouldn't be able to say no. :)

I'm not sure who else I'd go for but I may have to ponder over the course of the afternoon in bored moments. :)

[sebastienne.livejournal.com]

Yup, the one on the right. I've not seen the Mummy films.. but cute English librarians, you say? hmm...

[chrisvenus]

wow, and only now after I've half answered do I notice that I've been tagged. Was that added after the main post or was I just too busy thinking about Evie to notice? :)

[chrisvenus]

They are good fun silly faux-horror films too. I say they are well worth a watch. :)

[sebastienne.livejournal.com]

I edited in the tagging, yes, but before I got your comment.. weirdness!

[chrisvenus]

That makes sense then. I'd have had the page open posting my comment inline so it only refreshed to your edited version after I submitted my comment. :) Suddenly it all becomes clear and I haven't been distracted by pretty girls too much. :)

[mejoff.livejournal.com]

You do realise that the elf queen really looks nothing like those pictures, right? When someone (I can't remember who off the top of my head) sees through the glamour, she's basically a grey, as in http://www.ufobc.ca/yukon/yukon%20images/alien.jpg

[vass]

You know what? The character in Rocky Horror that I'd actually most likely have sex with is Janet. Post-film Janet. Wrecked and hungry and sad and alive. Frank... Frank, I'd rather *be*.

[sebastienne.livejournal.com]

Absolutely. But I have no interest whatever in seeing through the illusion.

[sebastienne.livejournal.com]

From "my mind has been expa-anded" onward, post-film Janet does have me somewhat. Frank still wins for me, but.. yeah.

[chrisvenus]

I've managed to get up to three now. I'm also going for:

Dr Clock from Scrubs - a cute quirky, slightly insane psychologist played by heather graham.

Neil Gaiman's Death - she has such a wonderful friendly personality and a better outlook on life than most people I know. And she satisfies my "cute goth chick" quota. :)

I've actually been thinking about this rather too much. I've got many I've ruled out like most Lord of the Rings characters because they are just not interesting enough. I considered Sally Sparrow from Blink but although she is cool she isn't quite irresistible...

Its all just too hard. I've scanned my memory of interesting pratchett characters and not come out with any that I think are really that great, all his best characters are male, it seems. :)

For a man who doesn't do "memes" I'm spending a lot of time thinkign about this....

[deathbyshinies.livejournal.com]

Heh. I think I'd still rather go up to the TV room with Magenta and Columbia. Something about the mischievous-schoolgirl dynamic of that scene, and something about the idea of being transgressive, yet at the same time utterly refusing to take one's transgressiveness seriously in any way at all.

[vass]

Something about the mischievous-schoolgirl dynamic of that scene, and something about the idea of being transgressive, yet at the same time utterly refusing to take one's transgressiveness seriously in any way at all.

Wow. What you like about Magenta and Columbia is exactly, finger right on it, what I dislike about them, and what creeps me out about them. They (well, Magenta at least) are the establishment. They're playing at being bad, and still escaping all the consequences of being a genuine outcast (like Frank) or even just taking a genuine risk to your identity (like Brad) or your social status (like Janet.)

Plus I've never been a fan of the mischievous schoolgirl dynamic in general, especially in grown women. It *worries* me. I was a very, very, serious schoolgirl. (Not serious about *being* a schoolgirl - I rarely considered that part of my identity, just somewhere I had to go to get my education - just *serious*. And worried.)

[mentalfirewall.livejournal.com]

Is that... is that Anthony Stuart Head as Frank'n'Furter?

[deathbyshinies.livejournal.com]

Ah - intriguing. I suppose it depends on whether you consider everyone in the house as already an outcast to some degree.

At times, I can have issues with the idea of mischievous-schoolgirling (as excellently parodied by Kate Rigg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMcTE5pFu8")) too, but here it doesn't bother me, for some reason.

Perhaps it's the inversion; the unfamiliar and at least slightly subversive idea of the female(lesbian?) objectifying gaze, with the obvious porn-industry connotations of the TV monitors, being directed outward at the m/m and m/f couple rather than vice-versa?

Or perhaps it's even simpler; perhaps it was just one of the first times I came across what's actually a fairly rare image in mainstream-ish film: two women together, not competing for resources or sexual attention, but sitting back and laughing at the rest of the world. (The fact that it's two dark-eyed Goth women, one with an Eastern European-sounding accent, one with an obviously working-class one, laughing at the two 'good', 'innocent' 'all-American' (at least in Janet's case) Aryans also comes into it).

Moving into thinking-out-loud territory: I think I was a very serious schoolkid too (oh, so serious!). Learning to play with that identity part of becoming more involved with the Goth scene (also part capitulation to patriarchal ideas of performing 'sexiness', for sure), and also, in a bizarre way, something of a way of moving past that identity (dressing up and pretending to be a cartoon parody of a schoolgirl as a way of distancing oneself from one's actual schoolgirl identity?).

[sebastienne.livejournal.com]

yes, yes it is!

I was wondering how long it would take someone to notice..

He played the role in the 1990 tour of the stage show, which little snippet of trivia makes me a Very Happy sebastienne indeed.

[mentalfirewall.livejournal.com]

I had to do a double take, he does look *very* good in the role. There's just something about that picture that is so... i dunno... sinsiter almost? He looks like a much more sinister version than Tim Curry. Tis good!

[mejoff.livejournal.com]

yeah, but... ewwwww, you'd know.